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What is it with feed readers these days?

clock December 28, 2007 20:55 by author Tom

I subscribe to this blog in Google Reader just to make sure that everything gets out-putted correctly and recently I've been noticing an odd bug.

For some reason posts from a week ago randomly reappear as new even at times when I haven't posted to the blog.  These changes aren't coming from the feed itself in that Google Reader marks the time posted as today while the feed clearly shows the correct times on the posts themselves.

This parallels a problem I read about on Scoble's blog yesterday (though to a much lesser extent) in which his feed was showing up incorrectly in Bloglines.  In response to Scoble's complaint Paul Querna replied that the reason was as follows...

At the bottom of every post on a wordpress.com blog, is a tracker image used for statistics. It includes a rand parameter, which changes every time the feed is fetched over HTTP. The image URL is something like this:

http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=scobleizer.com&rand=2045631674&blog=3428&post=3957&subd=scobleizer&ref=&feed=1

Because this rand value changes every time we read the feed, we considered the Item ‘Updated‘.

to which Scoble replied...

Here’s Bloglines reply about the issue with my feed and turns out the problem was actually a bug in Wordpress.com, which Matt Mullenweg admitted to and is taking care of. Nice to see this taken care of, thanks. I mean that sincerely. Sorry I had to make a stink, but I was getting tons of complaints and needed to force the issue cause no one was taking care of this bug.

I have to disagree here.  Bloglines is choosing to use a non-standard way to judge which entries are updated even when a standard way exists (the last updated timestamp) and in doing so they are causing a problem for their users.  That IS Bloglines' fault.  The fact that Matt Mullenweg was nice enough to work around their feed reader's bad behavior does not change that fact.

Back to my problem I really don't know what the issue is with Google Reader but I'm almost sure it stems from the same type of issues as above which is to say a feed reader that is choosing to implement its own standards rather than follow the ones that already exist.  I would hope that anyone who makes a feed reader would consider stopping this type of behavior in that it makes troubleshooting impossible for individual feed publishers (because you can't know the unofficial standards they are using) while simultaneously annoying their users (with multiple posts).



Age and the Information Revolution

clock December 28, 2007 20:53 by author Tom

One of the more interesting conversations I had while in Sacramento was about information delivery.  For those who don't know me personally I'm what can charitably be called a "Consistently Distracted Guest" in that I'm constantly checking my Cell. Phones as different buzzes inform me there is new information to be had. 

I work really hard to be polite about it but the bottom line is that I like to be connected at all times.

One of the things you forget about family is that, though you've known them longer than anyone chronologically, in many ways they don't know you at all.  You may e-mail, you may talk on the phone but unless you are within a few miles of each other you probably spend no more than a handful of hours per year together.  So sometimes they'll notice certain behaviors in you that everyone else in your life has just come to the point of taking for granted (and because they're your family they'll be open enough to say it) 

My obsessive checking of Cell. Phones was one of those occasions.  Where this becomes interesting is when I began to explain to them just what I was doing looking at my cell phone every 15 minutes and what being able to do that meant for me.  The real eye-opener came when showing them how to use Google Reader and getting the reaction "Why would you want to do something like that?" 

I'll be the first to admit the reaction took me by surprise.  I had always known that most people didn't live their life like I did but I always assumed it was because they lacked either the patience or the ability to leverage the tools in a way that would deliver what they wanted to them.  Only after probing a little did I discovered just how uncomfortable people of a certain age are around the rapid delivery of information. 

Quick Caveat: I'm going to break things down be age below but I realize that in many ways those are artificial generalizations.  There are certainly those over 30 who have embraced technology and those under 30 who have not.  But in the context of the current discussion I'm referring to what I believe to be the majority of people in each age group.

The similie I came up with to describe what I found was this: Imagine a person's youth as them growing up in a locked room.  The difference between people older than 30 and people younger than 30 is that for the older people the room was empty and for the younger people the room was full of people.  Now that both are adults and both are interacting on the essentially equal footing the younger ones feel uncomfortable without the noise of the other people in the room while the older people feel uncomfortable without the silence. 

If you think about it the above holds fairly true to life.  Younger people have grown up with E-Mail, Cell Phones, Pagers, IM, and so on which all act as a thousand little voices coming at them at all times.  So they've become accustomed to that type of environment.  Older people on the other hand could walk away from their land line and essentially be cut off from the world which is the environment they'd grown accustomed to.  Two very different experiences that create two very different comfort zones.

I really think this has a big impact because it raises the question of how we tailor solutions that both serve the needs of the (for lack of a better term) "Web 2.0 Demo" while still drawing in the older crowd?  How do we reach each demographic without alienating the other in the process? 

They're questions I've just begun to ponder and I suspect I'll be talking about them more as time goes on but I wanted to share the experience for now.  If Web 2.0 is about scale and harnessing the wisdom of the crowds than it will only achieve its full potential by drawing everyone into that crowd, even people who are uncomfortable with technology in the first place.



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Hi, I’m Tom and I run the IT department for a non-profit agency which provides treatment to special-needs children. Though I will (like any blogger) comment on technology in general my main goal is to detail how I’m trying to use technology to help treat the children we serve and its my hope that blogging will allow me to connect with people who can help in that goal.

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